very stubborn point of view. there are ppl in this world who can't defend themselves (Sakhor) and ppl who take advantage out of it (Ero).
Everyone who approves or defends that behaviour of Ero's group has a distorted perception of healthy social interaction. period.

u still don't get it mate.

It's actually more than that now. Since this has been pointed out and there is an audio recording of the event that's been published in many different places online, it's making CCP look bad. They will have to take action of some sort.

sorry mate. your one sided view of things has paralyzed my legs.

6 accounts of mine were cancelled because of this so will wait and see what if anything CCP does

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The majority of eve players have hardly even heard of the forums let along this latest Erotica thing. They just don't care because its just not all that important.

Everybody needs to stop assuming that the victims are perfectly healthy minded individuals.

"You deserve it if you fall for THAT scam."

"He could of left whenever he wanted!"

You have no idea who that person is, or what their life is right now.

He could be impaired someway mentally or not in the right state of mind. Does that make it right to abuse them for personal pleasure?

I did not know about your mis-adventure. But if I knew, I'd definitely care.

I know you really, really want it to be stamped out but it's just too late. You guys lit it and didn't realize EVERYONE would see. And ffs, Ripard is a good guy - why do you guys hate on him so much? <-- That's a serious Q, I really don't know what he did. Was it before my time? Or, was it just THIS? Because of him using Erotica's "Bonus Room" to highlight just how far into "horrible" we've let the community needle slide?

I know you really, really want this to be the "end all", but sorry, it's not about the individual harmed. It's about the individuals that do the harming.

Just for fun, I'm going to list a whole string of blogs people mailed to me that share our viewpoint (some call for bans, some don't, but are of the same theme).

EVE Plex: Sociopath Callout: Erotica 1
The Coffee Rocks: The Airlock
Jester's Trek: The Bonus Round
Align to Ramble: Sociopaths In Space
Warp To 0: Slippery Slopes
Mabrik's Mumblings: It's a Discussion the Gaming Community Needs to Have
EVE Inudstrialist: EVE (EVil Entities)
Hardcore Casual: Too Much tolerance
Foo's EVE Musings: The incident in a certain room

So you assume that none of the authors of these pieces has actually listened to the recording themselves, that they've just uncritically copied what Ripard Teg says? You do them a disservice, I suspect.

Gee. You are asking if Ripard should be to blame simply because he brought it up?

For fun, let's play this game for just one more spin.

A known arsonist lights a fire and burned down the city park. The fire burns itself out and the arsonist walks away, but not before posting a big sign in front of the park with pictures of himself lighting the fire, fanning the flames, and p**sing on the ashes.

A few days go by and a local walks by and notices the ruined park. He tells the local journalist, who also happens to be a city councilman, and a story is run. The town's residents show up to the police station and demand the arsonist be made to leave town.


Now, in your world, the police would instead arrest the councilman.

Unlike most of the relevant questions here, that is an easy one to answer. Barely anyone read the original post on the forums.

So, I have to be going for a while now.

But so we can keep the hate train rolling, I feel that I should inform you all that while I am gone I will be spending at least 90 minutes sitting on a bench in WalMart, laughing at fat people.

Yours,

Kaarous.

Once again, whether its now okay or not with the victim the line was crossed and cannot be uncrossed. If you're drink driving and don't kill anyone does that make it okay? No.

How much they paid him to be "okay with it" if they did, which is very highly likely given their questionable eithics is irrelevant.

This thread-naught, the multiple blogs, the posts on MMORPG, Massively and the rest slamming EVE, CCP, the player base is damage and the potential harm that it COULD HAVE CAUSED is the main issue.

As an aside I found it pretty amusing that someone... can't say who seems to have gone around and posted on sites that its suddenly okay, the victim is not upset, that the person who reported it is the evil one and oh yeah, could you please lock and delete these now... lol

Will you also willing to use mayo to cover and massage your body? I'm not gay, but maybe other people would enjoy to see this...

I'm not interested in damage control and propaganda. I listened to the whole original recording. I don't have to provide proof since I wrote "if they did". Like I said its highly likely they would stoop to that level given their reputations for being scammers, liars and general asshats.

Disclaimer: before you cry "personal attack" I said "given their reputations for being" which they cultivated themselves.

Like you do when you humiliate people for the purpose of your pleasure in order to try avoid any action by CCP?

Are we just trolling this thread now?

This is okay is it?

So you admit that it is public humiliation and that is fine.

Also just because something has been going on for a while it does not make it okay.

Just about everyone who isn't directly profiting from the activities involved, either in the form of ISK or enjoying the recordings.
You are the only ones defending this.

Even those who are concerned about slippery slope consequences of intervention, don't actually approve of what is happening in the Bonus Room.

The post history of this thread evidences that by means of the statistics of poster counts.
The top posters are all associated with Erotica1 and profit from this activity. I am the only exception in that list.

The rest is independant posters, most of who have expressed they find what happens in the Bonus Room goes too far.
Thats why you and others profiting from the activity, constitute the top % of the posts, because you are forced to run daft amounts of damage control and interference against a dissenting majority.

You know this, I know this, everyone knows this.

Do you know any CCP developer that felt compelled to send Erotica 1 pictures of a boyfriend/girlfriend? Or any CCP developer that felt compelled to write Erotica 1 on his/her body with mayonnaise? Perhaps some CCP developer which had their disabled partner go into a screaming panic attack as a result of interaction with Erotica 1?

Go ahead, I'm listening.

Meh, as much as I would like to stay and fight over whether or not people can disconnect from their "video game" avatar...

Get over themselves...

And just HTFU...

I gotta go to bed.

But I will say this.

Talking to sohkar in Escrow chat after all of the festivities ended, he was still innocent enough, and "new" enough, despite his old aged character, to not realize how deep the politics of this game run.

Kinda sad really, that he was thrust into the spotlight, little more than a newbie, to serve as a tool for a CSM member's grudge against one player.

As for the remaining Ero hate, he has already given you what you want.

The characters are being gutted.

Because quite frankly, internet spaceships is not serious business. It is a game, made for people to play the villain. Key word being "play." And while sohkar understands he acted out of bounds with his anger, and while he doesn't agree with Erotica's playstyle, he still respects that it was a game.

He even got back on his feet in just a day or two, lol.

That is a player I can respect, no matter his profession.

Holding his head high.

Took a lot of courage for him to announce his distaste in Ripard's maneuvering, and lack of consent. Especially amongst the scammers who scammed him. But yet, in an environment that is completely friendly and amicable.

Good for him.

Good night all, and thanks for the wonderful forum PvP.

Oh wow, surely the victims who got into that TEAMSPEAK BONUS ROOM happened to waltz in there through sheer coincidence and not because they were told to do so through EVE Online.